[lolinder]

Those stats don't say what you think they say. Those show that white people are no more likely to kill black people than black people are to kill white people. They do not say that black people are no more likely to kill someone.

[bingbong70]

Large % of black Americans don't trust the criminal justice system and police, I expect this leads to more extrajudicial crime fighting carried out by the community that skews assault/murder rates.

[lolinder]

That's not skewed numbers, "extrajudicial crime fighting" that ends with someone dead is correctly categorized as murder. Lack of trust in the system is a problem, but retributive killings are not the solution.

[dragonwriter]

> "extrajudicial crime fighting" that ends with someone dead is correctly categorized as murder.

That is no more true than it is without the word “extrajudicial”. It’s homicide, sure, but not all homicide is murder, and not all exteadjudicial crime fighting that results in death meets the definition of murder (or even criminal homicide.)

> Lack of trust in the system is a problem, but retributive killings are not the solution.

Retributive killings (and extradjudicial response generally) aren’t intended as solution to lack of trust in the system, they are solutions to other problems for which the palpable hostility of the system forecloses otherwise superior solutions.

Dismantling the system and replacing it with one that is trustworthy is the solution, but it was one that is actively opposed by those whosd relative position is supported by the features of the system that render it untrustworthy to the population at issue.

[bingbong70]

>someone dead is correctly categorized as murder.

Yes but how the data is recorded and interpreted is definitely skewed by a population not being able to rely-on/trust what should be public services.

What is the correct solution for tax payers that are criminalized by the institutions that they are forced to fund?

For decades nobody even believed the black horror stories about police misconduct until body cams/camera phones were widely available and the news was forced to cover them.