[abrownbag]

I never received any emails about strikes no even though I would get notification emails about comments etc to [e-mail] through those randomly generated page emails? I'm not sure how youtube works when you don't make the channels with an email.

I would just like to put on record it was never my intention to steal from other content creators. The initial idea came as a service I could provide to streamers. I pivoted as one of my streamer friends became popular through a popular clip channel. I figured Instead of trying to charge my friends for a service if I could get one clip channel big enough I could just reproduce that success for all our own clips...

I mean like the first rule of tech is don't be a dick right???

I just feel like it's very unfair of you to assume I'd eventually go down a specific route before it played out.

Also losing my entire livelihood for a programming project hurts enough even without your words.

[meowface]

>I would just like to put on record it was never my intention to steal from other content creators.

I believe you. But that's still what you ended up doing.

>The initial idea came as a service I could provide to streamers.

Then why didn't you make it a service you could provide to streamers, instead of skipping the service and agreement part and just uploading the content first without their knowledge? A little like offering a security service by showing up outside a store with a gun and taking some money off of each customer in exchange for the protection you're graciously providing to the store owner (who has no idea this is going on). Not saying what you did is at all like a protection racket; just trying to illustrate that the difference between a service and a racket is full, up-front consent and explicit agreements.

>I pivoted as one of my streamer friends became popular through a popular clip channel. I figured Instead of trying to charge my friends for a service if I could get one clip channel big enough I could just reproduce that success for all our own clips...

Why not provide this service for your friends for free and offer it to everyone else for a fee, then? (I get the actual reason; I'm just saying it's wrong. Unfortunately, many [not all] "growth hacks" are unethical.) I understand your intention here, but it seems like you may have been placing your friends above strangers to the point of not fully thinking about how the strangers were affected.

>Also losing my entire livelihood for a programming project hurts enough even without your words.

The project could've generated clips and you could've reached out to creators and showed them how the bot worked, with examples, and worked out an arrangement with anyone who was interested. It would've been the same programming project, except it would be ethical, legal, and perhaps directly profitable.

I'm not trying to roast you here at all. You don't seem like a malicious person. You're forthright about what you did. I just think this is a lesson you should take to heart and something you should move on from. If I were you I'd probably be trying to scrub all evidence of this, honestly, instead of trying to make a big deal of it. I know it stings a lot right now, but, trust me, I think you'll be very thankful for this in the future, even if it doesn't seem like it at the moment. Cut your losses.

[ipaddr]

"why didn't you make it a service you could provide to streamers, instead of skipping the service and agreement part "

Wait a minute. How would youtube know if he signed an agreement or not? Even if he did sign them youtube would have closed down the channel.

We have seen this before with more legimate channels and I highly doubt an agreement would have mattered.

[meowface]

YouTube isn't the one sending these takedown notices. People send the takedown notices to YouTube, and then they take required action afterwards.

Presumably, people who signed an agreement would not send takedown requests. As you mention, there are cases where this does sometimes mistakenly happen, like if someone is being represented by some agency or firm and they don't realize the content is part of the agreement, but it should be disputable in those cases, and usually will get resolved.

(It's true that sometimes it takes too long for those cases to get properly resolved, but that's a separate thing. I'm definitely not saying IP management on YouTube is perfect - there's plenty of abuse and errors in the copyright system. This just isn't one of those situations.)

[httpsterio]

His friends wouldn't obviously strike their own videos on the clip channel. Or the service would've provided his friends with the clips and they could upload them to their own channels.

[httpsterio]

You aren't actually entitled to three strikes. Just one blatant infringement is legally enough to terminate your account. YouTube neither has any guarantee that even I'd you get any notices that they're spanned out with says between. If you have more than 3 videos and they all get a strike at the same time, well then it's bye bye to the accounts.

And honestly, if you have 1 legit account and 20 operating on more sketchy waters, it's only reasonable that they ban all of your channels.