[smt88]

Govt has witnesses saying the dead passengers were showing off the Autopilot.

I see no reason to believe Musk, a serial liar with a massive incentive to lie here.

He even hedged by saying "data recovered so far" doesn't show Autopilot engaged.

[noxer]

Did you read my post? I didn't say I believe Musk. I said both stands are equality useless speculation and we should simply wait for the investigation result.

Either way one thing is rather certain, stupid humans where involved and are most likely the sole reason for the accident regardless of which story turns out to be true.

[smt88]

No one thinks Tesla murdered these men. They're worried that Tesla 1) lied to them about the capabilities of their car, and 2) failed to do very easy things to keep their car from endangering other people on the road.