[1cvmask]

From the article: “55% of voters support Medicare for All”

and 70 percent support a public option. 55% is a majority.

[ike0790]

The federal government is horrible at competing in the free market when it comes to pretty much any good/service. For medicare to have a chance, they would need to eliminate the private market for healthcare. No one that can afford private healthcare would opt for government healthcare. Those who truly rely on government healthcare I assume wouldn't pay the monthly premium. We could defund the war machine but neither party wants that. There is the option to just printing the money but there's no free lunch and that inflation will show up in healthcare prices and the broader economy. Lastly, This type of top-bottom control of the healthcare market is not pragmatic and will lead to a whole host of inefficiencies and other problems that would create a worst situation then what we have right now.

[ddingus]

Primary health care, as a market, is illegal in much of the world.

Most of the world disagrees with what you put here and performs better than the US.

[ike0790]

False. America’s healthcare quality is the best in the world despite current issues with affordability. Most developed countries with socialized medical care are far smaller then the US. Most are smaller then just LA or NYC alone. Every market the government enters by subsidizing cost creates market distortions that have contributed to multiple financial crises in this country(mortgage and higher education).

My comprise would be let the states implement socialized medicine. My hunch is that with within a few years every economically productive person in those states would move states within 2-3 years. The tax burden and lack of choice in health care would be a no brainer to leave. Most people think socialized medicine will fix everything overnight put don’t think about what rights they are takin away from individuals to achieve their goals.

[ddingus]

Quality does not equal performance.

For a few, the quality is amazing, but even Cuba does better at keeping its people healthy than we do.

Cuba regularly contributes to medicine same as we do and doctors are a national export, recognized around the world.

And just what is an "economically productive" person?

You do realize those numbers come from tons of other people, who work hard and too many of whom have no meaningful access to that quality medicine?

No, probably not.

Finally, there is how health care is funded, who has access, and how care, medicine is delivered.

Socialized medicine is the VA, and that is not what Medicare is.

Medicare is funding health care, not socialized medicine.

It is hard to consider your other points given these basic misalignments.