[nawgz]

> Okay but this thing boils down to just JavaScript right

I am not really sure I understand this stance. My JavaScript ultimately just boils down to C++, no? C++ ultimately just boils down to machine code, right? Yet you clearly wouldn't try to tackle those things at that layer.

Without more statements on what this bug was and why there weren't error messages or why it was so hard to recreate you felt you could only look at it thru a debugger, I really completely fail to understand your point.

> Abstractions are supposed to remove complexity

React does remove a ton of complexity from writing frontend - good luck composing HTML & JS components with just jQuery - but in exchange it also introduces some, of course. So they make that new and different complexity easier to handle with their dev tools.

> I swore off abstractions ... [that] treat users like morons

I really have a tough time to read this charitably. What on earth are you on about?