[nomel]

Strangers submitting patches to the kernel is completely normal, where throwing people off is not. A better analogy would involve decades of examples of bad actors throwing people off the bridge, then being surprised when someone who appears friendly does it.

[hervature]

Your analogy also isn't the best because it heavily suggests the nefarious behavior is easy to identify (throwing people off a bridge). This is more akin to people helping those in need to cross a street. At first, it is just people helping people. Then, someone comes along and starts to "help" so that they can steal money (introduce vulnerabilities) to the unsuspecting targets. Now, the street-crossing community needs to introduce processes (code review) to look out for these bad actors. Then, someone who works for the city and is wearing the city uniform (University of Minnesota CS department) comes along saying there here to help and the community is a bit more trustful as they have dealt with other city workers before. The city worker then steals from the people in need and then proclaims "Aha, see how easy it is!" No one is surprised and just thinks they are assholes.

Sometimes, complex situations don't have simple analogies. I'm not even sure mine is 100% correct.

[camjohnson26]

While submitting patches is normal submitting malicious patches is abnormal and antisocial. Certainly bad actors will do it, but by that logic these researchers are bad actors.

Just like bumping into somebody on the roof is normal, but you should always be aware that there’s a chance they might try to throw you off. A researcher highlighting this fact by doing it isn’t helping, even if they mitigate their damage.

A much better way to show what they are attempting to is to review historic commits and try to find places where malicious code slipped through, and how the community responded. Or to solicit experimenters to follow normal processes on a fake code base for a few weeks.

[rualca]

> Strangers submitting patches to the kernel is completely normal, where throwing people off is not.

Strangers submitting patches might be completely normal.

Malicious strangers trying to sneak vulnerabilities by submitting malicious patches devised to exploit the code review process is not normal. At all.

There are far more news reports of deranged people throwing strangers under traffic, subways, and trains, than there are reports of malicious actors trying to sneak vulnerable patches.

[d110af5ccf]

> Malicious strangers trying to sneak vulnerabilities by submitting malicious patches devised to exploit the code review process is not normal.

How could you possibly know that? In fact, I would suggest that you are completely and obviously wrong. Government intelligence agencies exist (among other things) and presumably engage in such behavior constantly. The reward for succeeding is far too high to assume that no one is trying.