[piranha]

I disagree. Making a good site with React takes more effort than not making bad site otherwise. Also because it’s fashionable React (and similar frameworks like Angular or Vue or Ember) are used in places where they don’t belong and it stinks.

[nawgz]

I just am saying, someone with clean HTML/CSS/JS knowledge who abuses React to the degree you're implying just sounds like a strawman to me.

[Tade0]

Frameworks shield from footguns like unpredictable DOM modifications all over the place put one over the other.

I was there when AngularJS was still this revolutionary new framework and back then any sufficiently sophisticated form would eventually become unmaintainable.