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by yunohn 1889 days ago
Dude, seriously?

You choose to willfully install Netdata. You have to read the docs where the opt-out telemetry is clearly explained, before you can self-host it too. If you care, you can disable it.

I honestly don’t understand HN. Multiple commenters deriding a free open-source project for having basic telemetry to understand feature usage.

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I feel like you are willfully misunderstanding: netdata transmitting the data without consent is unethical: it's not their data to send.

I did not choose to willfully install Netdata - I don't use it because it is unethical spyware.

Telling someone "if you stay where you are, I am going to do $THING_REQUIRING_CONSENT to you in 20 minutes" is not obtaining consent if the person doesn't, say, leave the building. Being in the hospital is not a blanket consent to anything the doctor wants to do, for example.

To transmit a user's private data (their usage) to the app vendor is unethical unless the user has specifically indicated that they want that to happen. If they haven't (and simply installing the software is not that), transmitting it anyway is, at best insanely rude, and at worst actively malicious (like, for example, how Netlify's CLI used to transmit "I opt out of telemetry" events, before I got them to stop).

Calling nonconsensual spyware "basic telemetry" is a euphemism.

>> Being in the hospital is not a blanket consent to anything the doctor wants to do

No, in this case, you willfully signed up for a surgery and decided to skip reading the T&C.

>> user has specifically indicated that they want that to happen

You did this by installing the software without opting-out.

You sound entitled and spoiled. And by incessantly accusing netdata of being spyware, it feels like you are not willing to have a constructive discussion.