[Ombudsman]

I think Microsoft is smarter than that, look at Github for example, people have largely forgotten it's owned by MSFT. They would have left Discord as a gaming platform and used it's tech in Teams instead. Teams is so behind Discord in all areas except video quality.

[selimthegrim]

Has there been an exodus of talent from Github if they are leveling salaries?

[Rapzid]

Probably an influx of talent. They suddenly started shipping stuff after the acquisition..

[selimthegrim]

I wonder if that extends to their data org...

[sascha_sl]

Very poorly polished stuff, to be honest. Before, they always seemed to take great care in making their core product (and the API for it) great. The only thing I can think of that was similarly unpolished was GitHub Enterprise.

[adflux]

What fields are that exactly?

[russellendicott]

Teams chat is awful:

- Trying to figure out how to do code snippets and inline code is madness.

- You can't copy and paste whole conversations.

- Integrations/bots are awful and make you realize the whole thing is built on some ancient Sharepoint SOAP API.

- Mobile app on Android whacks out frequently and has to do the blinky reload chat 19 times before the screen settles down.

A lot of my other gripes are probably due to enterprise issues but I'll mention them anyway:

- Can't create my own channels.

- can't be on my company Teams on a call and switch to Microsoft's server to talk to a TAM without dropping the call.

[sascha_sl]

I don't think GitHub staff has forgotten. Actions are straight up Azure Pipelines. The code is a huge mess. If I didn't know better I'd say it's obscured by design. Check out the actions/runner repo if you don't believe me. They polished them very well for the hosted version, but the cracks show if you try to use the self-hosted version.

I can't believe anyone at GitHub is particularly thrilled about having a Microsoft technology that broken imposed on them.