[davismwfl]

I've generally seen these types of terms from arrogant and/or inexperienced founders. Arrogant ones won't change the terms and argue with you or dismiss you, inexperienced ones usually will listen and find common ground.

A typical NDA just says you won't disclose anything publicly that they haven't disclosed, not really that unreasonable honestly. It isn't a non-compete, which is the big difference. And to be clear, a NDA with a forever clause has been held up in many jurisdictions in the U.S. from what I have been told in the past. So don't treat it like a non-compete where reasonableness is part of the test. Of course if they combined a non-compete and an NDA or they tried to dress up the NDA as a non-compete, not rare sadly, then just say no and move on.

*edit added "typical" in second paragraph.