[Shenglong]

The most organized guild I've been in, as an example, did not really have a governance structure. There was no such thing as DKP, and when a boss was down'd, everyone's immediate first question was "who needs this most?" - or rather, "who would bring the most benefit by taking this?" Raids were super smooth. In fact, on vent, we'd barely talk, other than to make jokes and tell stories.

Siege wars went well too. 40 of us vs over 200 people every time, and no one raged, and we never lost. This guild won siege for over 8 months straight without a single loss. I actually do have proof of this in the form of a 1gb video. I can upload it if you like. :P

Games now (I notice you mentioned Rifts) are different. I find most players now tend to be 30-50 year olds. I'm not sure why the shift in demographic...