[RHSeeger]

> Forcing freelancers into W-2 status is just another example of the government screwing people over "for their own good".

It's the government screwing _some_ people over for the good of everyone else, where it's presumed that "good of everyone else" is worth more to society than what is lost by those that get screwed over by it.

At least, that's generally the intent.

[thereisnospork]

Considering that the people it was supposed to help are being fired every 2 years for 6 months I'd say the governments plan to help some people hasn't and caught people like the GP in the crossfire. Quelle surprise.

[yaml-ops-guy]

I’m very glad we’re only screwing over “some” people, good to have that cleared up, thank you for that...it’s still an abominable practice to put any amount of laborers through.

[RHSeeger]

Are you of the belief that there are a set of policies/laws that result in everyone being happy and nobody being screwed over? Such a thing is not realistic. Every system of laws results in some people suffering for the benefit of others. The better law system result in less suffering for more benefit.

[threatofrain]

Government policy is inherently concerned with those kinds of moral tradeoffs. Vaccines and lockdowns naturally pose such questions.

[walshemj]

Its more having a fake second class worker which benefits massively the employer and not real self employed people.

[syshum]

Ahh the old "Greater Good", the most evil phrase in the English Language

Anyone attempting to do anything for "the greater good" should be viewed with suspicion and disrespect as most at best what they are attempting to do no matter the intent will fail and harm more people than it will help

At worst is it just a shield to cover their immoral actions, or thirst for power

Every person that values freedom, individuality, and prosperity should reject any policy or law that is based on a "greater good" narrative

[Goronmon]

Every person that values freedom, individuality, and prosperity should reject any policy or law that is based on a "greater good" narrative

So pretty much all laws and policies? Anarchy doesn't seem that sustainable.

[mstipetic]

I don’t understand why all the staunch libertarians just don’t move to a favela or some other similar place where they can enjoy absolute freedoms

[dantheman]

Why don't people that want all these new things move to where they already exist?

[syshum]

In Response to this common statement we have 2 video responses

You Can Always Leave ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fasTSY-dB-s )

Why Libertarianism Is So Dangerous ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbNFJK1ZpVg )

[mstipetic]

This was painful to watch.

[syshum]

I am sorry that logic and reason is painful to you

[throwaways885]

> Every person that values freedom, individuality, and prosperity should reject any policy or law that is based on a "greater good" narrative

Curious what you think about COVID lockdowns then

[syshum]

Should be very clear, I oppose government mandated lock downs.

[0xEFF]

Seems selfish. Lockdowns reduce deaths.

Edit: I don’t mean to call anyone names, genuinely interested in understanding if you’re concerned about being perceived as selfish and if so how you reconcile the tension?

[syshum]

>>if you’re concerned about being perceived as selfish

I am not, All persons act in their own personal or familial self interest, to deny that is to deny reality.

>>and if so how you reconcile the tension?

I dont plan to

>> Lockdowns reduce deaths.

There is very little actual evidence of this, even further there is little evidence that draconian government measures have done more than voluntary action of informed persons.

It is far too large of topic to discuss here but no one can honestly say "draconian government lock-downs were the best way to deal with the pandemic" because that is simply false.

[SiempreViernes]

What do you think about defence spending?

[syshum]

That is more complicated, but I take a traditionally libertarian view, opposing world policing actual defense is acceptable, actual defense being something akin to a slightly more powerful coast guard.

But going item by item on the list of government actions would be rather pointless, politically I fall somewhere between Anarcho-Capitalism and Geo-Libertarianism