[lancepioch]

How is it inferior? Seems better in most ways to me.

* 800-900 MHz only

* every z-wave device works with every z-wave controller

* z-wave signals travel further

* z-wave requires aes-128

* power consumption is roughly the same as zigbee

* z-wave is an open standard contrary to what you say

[01100011]

I heart z-wave. After having worked for a company that was heavily gaming the IEEE standards process I have lost faith in many 'design by committee' protocols. I use Z-Wave at home and it works great. Low power and reliable.

Oh and HDMI as well. I spent at least a year of my life working out interoperability issues for a major DVR mfg. If only HDMI certification had been controlled by a single company...

[jeromenerf]

“Nothing worth having comes easy”, right?

Not all standards are made like utf8, ie commissioned last minute by a committee, written by two guy over the weekend and adopted by committee the week after. Then used by everyone for decades with little to no changes.

[novok]

Z-wave does not require aes128, it can't even handle multiple messages that well and gets congested very, very easily. The more z-wave secure devices you have the more easily your network gets congested, and god help you if every device also reports their power usage. If you want to remove a device from the network to move it to another network, you often have to go through an explicit dejoin process vs just start a new join process with something else.

Still overall a shit experience.

[lancepioch]

Your device can't be certified without it to the best of my knowledge.

[novok]

but it's not required to operate it (you can chose secure or not), and many dont because of the extra overhead and hassle.