[jariel]

We know the US spies and so does China - this is not news.

We do not have evidence the NSA is doing industrial espionage.

Moreover, this is Huawei, not technically 'the state' and it's about the fact they are related to the state - and - they've had incredible access as part of their normal operations which is questionable.

China is the most aggressive and active state sponsor of hacking and they 100% do it for purposes of industrial espionage.

Literally 'leaving the door open' to every phone in a nation to a state-backed entity seems unthinkable in 2021.

It's probably going to be best if everyone uses local carrier gear and consulting entities for this kind of work the advantage of 'totally free trade' doesn't seem to be more than what would be lost otherwise.

[LatteLazy]

Fyi, Snowden has claimed the NSA engages in industrial espionage [0] and there are leaked documents implicating the German security services for having helped them [1].

I agree about the ideal world solution being to only use home designed/produced tech. Sadly there are only a few companies on earth actually making this tech. For a long time the only company with a real 5G solution was Huawei. I'm as suspicious of the Chinese as the next rational human. I just think almost all telecoms infrastructure is compromised by the US, so its about picking the problem rather than avoiding it...

[0] https://www.bbc.com/news/25907502

[1] https://www.vice.com/en/article/xw3qjj/germany-accused-of-sp...