[Someone1234]

That seems like an opinion given from a privileged position, wherein you own a large enough dwelling to have a dedicated gym area you can prevent children entering.

Equipment should be safe enough to have in non-optimal circumstances, rather than basing things on rarely obtained ideals held by a privileged few.

[andrew_v4]

Are you saying that all "equipment" sold should be in the category that it can safely be installed in a multi-use area of a home with kids in it? I get the idea that there is demand for such products, but it's pretty backward to mandate that a product can't exist that requires a dedicated area to house it. As a concrete example, everywhere I have lived requires your pool to be fenced off from the rest of your yard, because of the danger to kids (which would dwarf that of a treadmill). Should we ban pools because you need to have dedicated space for a pool in order to have one?

[Someone1234]

> Are you saying that all "equipment" sold should be in the category that it can safely be installed in a multi-use area of a home with kids in it?

No. I was pointing out the non-ideal reality. People commonly use gym equipment in multi-use area with children, if that gym equipment can suck up a child or pet, and won't stop even as it jams on them, that is a safety concern. Basing product safety on a rare ideal instead of reality is a recipe for further tragedy.

[thegrimmest]

But why is it that every time tradgedy occurs we're looking for a systemic casuse that we can regulate away? Why not leave this to parental negligence and stop calling for more regulation everytime a child gets injured or killed?

[AlotOfReading]

The penalty for momentary negligence should not be death, especially when there are simple, cheap safeguards to mitigate the risk. No one is asking them to ship light fences with the thing. Moreover, having the treadmill standing up in a living room is exactly how they advertise it. It's hard to argue that's somehow unintended and unforeseeable usage.

[thegrimmest]

It's not the penalty, it's just a natural consequence. Momentary negligence does frequently result in death. Taking your eyes off of two small children could kill them in many situations. It's easy - just watch your kids. My living room is perfectly safe for me and other adults, but I could come up with 5 ways those two kids could seriously harm themselves if I left them there alone for 5 minutes. The world is dangerous. The responsibility for protecting your children from harm ends with you.

[yarcob]

Because there are lots of overworked parents and their kids do not deserve to die.

[throwaway_isms]

>That seems like an opinion given from a privileged position

Well, the Peloton is a $4,300 device, so it goes without saying anyone who owns one is in a privileged position. Of course it doesn't mean owners have an extra room. In situations like this, there is probably at least comparative negligence.

[Someone1234]

People who live inside New York City could be in that income bracket while lacking the space you assume they have. There are multiple areas of the country with that cross-section of high property costs and high income.

[xyzzyz]

Sure, and if they lack space, some things simply are not an option. These folks in tight NYC spaces wouldn’t install a table saw and a router table in their living room either.

I guess the real issue here is that many people simply do not understand how dangerous gym equipment can be. Small kids simply should not be allowed around it, no matter if there is some plastic guard part around it or not.

[anonymousab]

> Sure, and if they lack space, some things simply are not an option.

I suspect peloton still pursues such people all as potential customers.

[throwaway_isms]

>lacking the space you assume they have

Did you even read my comment?

>Of course it doesn't mean owners have an extra room.