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by natfriedman 1885 days ago
Any forks that make the same very minor changes that ytdl made -- not to provide specific instructions for copyright infringement -- will be reinstated. Or they can complete the DMCA counter-notice process, and if that is unchallenged or successful, be reinstated that way.

(Also, the person who wrote this article said that they contacted me, but I never received anything from them.)

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As a user, this was exactly my experience. I didn't want to drop my fork since I had open PRs so GitHub support reinstated my fork and gave me a window to rebase it and confirm with them.

That's literally all I had to do: rebase it against upstream.

> Or they can complete the DMCA counter-notice process, and if that is unchallenged or successful, be reinstated that way.

If I was a US resident I would, but I'm not a US resident. If the DMCA claimer decides to challenge my counter notice it ends-up in a US court. Even if their claim is super far fetched they will probably realize there is no way I can realistically defend myself in a foreign court.

Worst case I get convicted in absentia and the next time I set foot on US soil I get in trouble at customs.

>Worst case I get convicted in absentia and the next time I set foot on US soil I get in trouble at customs.

FWIW, you cannot simply be convicted in absentia in the USA. It would violate the 5th, 6th, and 14th Amendments and the due process rights they secure for a defendant. SCOTUS covered this in Hopt v. Utah in the late 1800s and there has been no revision since. If someone engages in voluntary behavior after a trial begins the trial may still proceed, like if they're there for the start of the trial and then voluntarily flee, or they're disruptive, given warning they could be ejected, and continues to be disruptive. But the trial can't start without them.

Granted here we're not talking criminal law at all. And most DMCA takedown claims are just mass sent on the cheap with zero intent to followup.

I'm not interested in playing this kind of game.

Just give me the ability to delete my fork. Currently trying to delete it via API fails with HTTP 451.

You should've gotten an e-mail from Github support back in November with the option to reply to request it be deleted.
I didn't get such a mail.
This seems like a reasonable bug for Github to fix.
Update: the author's email was in my spam folder, which must be why I didn't receive it.
> copyright infringement

Circumvention is only copyright infringement due to the DMCA, which Microsoft, as part of the BSA, lobbied for [1]. This entire incident is Microsoft's doing, from passing the initial consumer-hostile law, to interpreting it in the most copyright-maximal way they can get away with [2].

[1] https://arstechnica.com/uncategorized/2005/01/4511/

[2] Lest anyone think MS is not an enthusiastic abuser of that law: Removing “Annoying” Windows 10 Features is a DMCA Violation, Microsoft Says - https://torrentfreak.com/removing-annoying-windows-10-featur...

Love how the CEO of GitHub reads and comments on HN!
There are tons of CEOs here from Tech. Of course this is just my anecdotal evidence.

Internet is amazing, Bowie was right.

Zuck would be interesting to have on here lmao
Maybe he secretly posts under an alt. Some suspect this on Twitter.
Having to assume a non-zero possibility that anyone you interact with on HN is secretly Zuckerberg makes the whole experience just that extra little bit spicy, doesn't it
There's no reason to admire or have anything but distaste for him, so no.
I doubt he's still interested in (or even has time for) HN-style discussions.
Posting on twitter secretly doesn't make sense unless you have good followers. Obviously you can do that for friends and family but com'on twitter is not for friends and family.
Question: Do you usually read HN in any form (comments, stories, having friends curate from HN for you), or just comment on GitHub-related articles?
Not the CEO but there are services that will monitor various social media for mentions of your name or your company - and any moderately large company with a PR department monitors those.