[covidthrow]

I fear that you're being downvoted for pointing out the even bigger threat of our national media's exceedingly more dangerous acts of propaganda, presumably because readers either don't recognize it or are wilfully blind to it because it reflects their own biases.

The SolarWinds hack was a devastating attack on our sovereignty.

And so is the other.

[encryptluks2]

The SolarWinds hack in addition to election interference should easily be seen as an attack worthy of taking out Putin IMO.

[askl56]

Yes, let's assassinate a world leader of the country with the most nukes in the world based on unfounded claims of election interference and a hack.

Do you have any idea what America did in Russia in the immediate aftermath of the fall of the Soviet Union? The 1996 election in Russia which was majorly "interfered" with by Clinton: https://archive.is/R7i5u, not to mention the fact that most Russian hacking activities are done using NSA backdoors which were leaked?

I'm surprised and disappointed to see such flagrant ivory tower imperialism on HN.

[thyrsus]

I agree completely that assasination, beyond moral abhorrence, would work out as well as most U.S. foreign policy - horrifically. The last foreign policy success I'm aware of was the Marshall plan.

I think it's a mistake to minimize Russian influence, when it suffices to compare the unmitigated disaster of U.S. actions - both government and private sector, and at enormous scale - in post-Soviet Russia.

[grosswait]

Your cited article is interesting but does not support your assertion of major interference IMO. Policy maneuvers for political purposes are the norm for all countries right or wrong.

[sudosysgen]

Really? A government saying that they would ensure no "negative stories would come out", literally puppetting international institutions to pay out money - billions - for an election campaign, sent US Government agents to be embedded into the Yeltsin campaign right as he was violating every law on the books and calling in favours from the mafia and oligarchs, and very likely also used intelligence agencies to help, all of that isn't major interference?

But targeted ads are?

[takeda]

I have a family member affected by those "targeted ads" and can tell you this is hardly comparable to news agencies writing favorably or not about someone. Some people are seriously fucked up because of this. Just look what happened on January 6th.

[sudosysgen]

For the record, I think that both are elections interference. But there's a far cry behind publishing fake news and advertising it to some demographics and fuelling IMF money into campaigns by the billions and embedding foreign advisors into a criminal election campaign.

[thu2111]

Because the Russia link is so strong? Dude, everything you read about Russia in the American press is garbage. From the article:

"They cleaned the crime scene so thoroughly investigators can't prove definitively who was behind it."

That's literally in the article but it doesn't stop them writing the whole thing as if it's utterly proven beyond doubt who was behind it.

[aleister_777]

I was speaking to some Russians at a party yesterday. They lamented at how Russian and American media were mirrors of each other.

Russia uses America as the core of their propaganda just the same as the DNC has been using Russia as their boogoieman since they needed a narrative to apply to Trump.

As someone who formerly worked for Crowdstrike and has performed the APT-29 demo countless times, I will say attribution is bullshit and people frankly have no real data to point fingers.