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by wayneftw 1896 days ago
Are macs still shipping with severely outdated CLI tools? 10 years ago, Mac users just got the ability to resize a window by any edge or corner... How's that really good window management system working out for ya?

It's shocking that the Mac UX is so good that 75% of the developers out there would rather not use one... Meanwhile developers are the group that uses them more than the general population so both groups obviously disagree that Macs have a good UX at all lul.
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evilduck 1896 days ago
Windows is still shipping without CLI tools and Linux distros also mostly don't ship with build-essential or headers, -dev packages or every language toolchain. Every system requires setup and MacOS shipping with older GPL2 packages puts it squarely between the two alternatives in terms of setup and configuration cost.

As for the WM differences, its just a different way of thinking about it, or a preference. None of them really bother me, personally.

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wayneftw 1896 days ago
Every system requires setup, but only Linux systems will remain exactly as you have set them up year after year, if you wish. During the last 2 years, out of all the Linux, Mac and Windows systems in my house - the Macs have been the only systems broken in some major way by an OS update.

Having to remove some dangerously old GNU utils and constantly having to contend with Apple over your rights puts macOS squarely behind Linux and only just ahead of Windows (for work) in my book. If you haven't used Linux in years, try a rolling Arch based distro like Manjaro and you'll experience how little setup you actually need to get your job done. Heck, you don't even have to use the CLI to install every single piece of software you'll ever need. It literally takes minutes to setup. Windows and Mac simply can't compete in this area.

WM differences don't necessarily annoy me, but I don't tolerate people saying shit like "Mac UX is better than anything, period" because that is demonstrably not true for many, many, many values of "better". I have all three at home and at work and I use each one for what it's best at. Windows for gaming and entertainment. Linux for any sort of development. Macs for Apple/Mac/iOS stuff. They each have some obvious strengths, but anyone arguing that Macs are uniformly better for developers are clearly inexperienced IMO.

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