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by vmception 1897 days ago
Even with cannabis, states have no FDA that is prepared to do studies and I just wish a basic level of known side effects were listed from the actual FDA which they do for studied and much more harmful drugs, because they were studied

When you add all the other scheduled drugs that have no state level recreational framework, then you no studies and you also have a compounded supply chain problem where nobody knows what they’re actually consuming

There are molecule combinations out there which can cause instant parkinson’s disease

nobody can give a real case about “the friend of friend” who went crazy because of the illegality and imagined or real liability

and its not fair to say “this drug is perfectly safe stop fearmongering, oh wait you should have known about your family history of schizophrenia never mind then lol too late, but everyone else dont listen to that person” this isn’t directed at you, just a collection of things said in the psychadelic community pretty reliably

bothersome.

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>nobody can give a real case about “the friend of friend” who went crazy

This is a very good point. I'm not going to suggest that the commonly cited anecdotes are all wrong or misguided, but a lot of well meaning people throw around anecdotes but just like a discussion about flat earthers, everyone knows about them but virtually nobody seems to actually know any personally.

In 2016 the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) cited 37,461 people died due to automobile accidents. Those are easily traceable numbers because they create a tremendous amount of paperwork and news articles.

But with psychedelics there is a very odd disconnect between the perception of their danger and the extreme lack of actual medical/scientific evidence that actually gets cited.

> There are molecule combinations out there which can cause instant parkinson’s disease

Is this real or exaggeration for effect? It sounds implausible...

With 3 days of use. Parkisons disease in 20 years old.

Simulatable in primates and mice by giving them this drug.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPTP

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00000360.htm

Be careful out there, test your drugs.

(*Within 3 days after use)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prion

It's not instant but it's very scary stuff and 100% incurable.