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by carpedimebagjoe 1894 days ago
Omnicidal and suicidal thoughts are multiplying as people lose hope in the future and their future specifically.

Furthermore, is there any sensible, hopeful, safe, stable, productive, and generally happy society that has mass shootings and addictions/crimes of despair nearly everyday?

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Mass shooting are isolated events - Statistics clearly show that most gun deaths are either self-inflicted or the result of gang wars - and "mass shooting" reporting is incredibly biased since they decided to artificially cut the definition at "more than 3" iirc and the data will look quite different depending on the thresholds you choose. But that's a very different topic.
Isolated events are like the weather, a general trend is the climate. There are 12000 gun-related homicides in the US every year. Per capita, the US is the 7th worst in the entire world.

There isn't any first-world country with the number and frequencies of mass shootings or gun-related homicides the US does. 2/3 of gun deaths are suicides, which are a bigger problem of preventable acts of despair. Murder is entirely different. 54% of mass shooting are family-related. Roughly 40000 gun deaths in the US per year.

> There are 12000 gun-related homicides in the US every year. Per capita, the US is the 7th worst in the entire world

Comparing with other countries is ridiculous at best when not nonsensical. No country enables citizens to purchase weapons like in the US and no other country has hundreds of millions of weapons in circulation. Trying to make it look like a single variable problem is a joke.

The current apocalyptic scenarios are the same as in the past. If anything, we do have more science and technology to deal with them and to predict them.

And the grim prediction is rather than climate change, the real problem is population growth.

> the real problem is population growth

Population growth is not a massive problem: we already know that human population will hit a max of 10 billion people and from there start aging progressively and reduce over time.

I agree. The problems are resource consumption and pollution per capita. There are many soft and hard effects trends that are reducing population. Oceanic food production that would also sequester carbon would allow for a greater population carrying capacity. The main issue is getting people to reproduce. xD
We don't know, we suspect that in the most optimistic scenarios. Without knowing the underlying mechanism. Without knowing the consequences of cultural change and industrialisation of the third world countries.

This is the finest kind of denialism, and it is really going to bite us hard in about a hundred years at most.

I wouldn't be such a prophet of doom; there is still plenty of happiness in humanity, and i'm not certain its declining as badly as you are making out.