[helipad]

As a counter point, I love my Surface Laptop 3 as my personal device.

I had a pre-M1 MacBook Air for when I'm not working and I hated its fans constantly whirring and the industrial design that hadn't been updated in years.

I dived deep into different Windows laptops having spent 10+ years away and been really pleased with the purchase. The design is very simple, aspect ratio great, and the keyboard better than the Mac I was transitioning from.

I didn't like the Dell XPS's keyboard or display, and I tried the Razer Blade Stealth 13 but it was overkill.

Having not really used Windows for years and given that lots of Windows laptops still had shockingly cheap industrial design or weird quirks (webcam at the bottom?!), the Surface Laptop 3 was unfussy and a delight to use.

[dylan604]

> or weird quirks (webcam at the bottom?!),

whoa!! what? i can't believe that someone did that, but then, yes I can. i guess that's useful if you have to look at the keyboard while typing. in that case, the bottom based cam is just a glance up???

[outworlder]

Dell XPS has (or had, not checked) the covid-test-webcam.

[christophilus]

Fortunately, the new XPS put the camera back in the correct spot. It’s got a good display, but hate the ratio.

[astatine]

That's so true! A third of the view it gets is the underside of your face and nose and the rest is the ceiling.

I have this XPS and use an external webcam when I need one.

[neogodless]

Lenovo Legion Y540 also did this. I was using that laptop last spring when we switched to WFH... didn't last long! Ended up moving to my desktop and using a dedicated webcam before long.

Fortunately, the replacement Lenovo Legion 5 moves the webcam back to the top.