[mkrazzledazzle]

This was discovered thousands of years ago in the east(indian subcontinent) by meditation practitioners(i.e Buddha, Mahavira etc) solely through thousands of hours of practice and self-realization. These have been codified into various texts which form a major part of vipassana teachings.

Interesting how scientists in the west either conveniently pick up the theory, conduct some a/b tests and publish them as new discoveries without credit. Even if they had arrived on these conclusions, independently on their own, it's important to understand the mind boggling amount of progress in psychology, neuroscience that was made with the limited knowledge of scientific rigor in the east thousands of years ago.

[contradistinct]

I disagree. If it's not empirical, it doesn't count. There are millions of people with ideas, but ideas aren't good enough. Prove your idea is true, then we'll talk about deserving credit.

Exception: mathematical ideas which are difficult to come up with.

[mkrazzledazzle]

How is it fair to pick up/completely ignore published experiential observations, in continued practice for millennia from another culture elsewhere in the world, conduct a/b tests and publish results without credit? I'm pretty sure the western world is going to continue swindling wellness techniques/practices from ancient texts, quickly run half-baked experiments, cherry pick data to suit a result and "publish" findings.

When these techniques were in development, in the golden era for spirituality, most of the rest of the world were still hunter-gatherers. Empirical rigor was just not a thing.

It's a question of providing due credit for those who developed and practice these techniques as a way of life. If not share some of the capitalistic spoils in the billions from delivering stress relief(meditation based content) through shiny, addictive apps (Yes, meditation apps can be addictive! Surprise! i.e, Headspace, Calm), At least provide credit where it's due.