[dralley]

> This would be a decent point if nobody had any interest in chromium alternatives and Firefox was a new upstart brand, neither of which are true.

What? The dominance of the mobile space by one of their competitors, who pre-installs their own browser, and who advertised said browser for free on the most visited website on the planet (google.com) for years, is absolutely relevant regardless of how old Mozilla is.

And the world isn't like HN, most people don't care that much about their browsers, and don't even know what "chromium" is.

[franklyt]

Firefox has, since incipience, faced that challenge.

Anyhow, the point I’m making is that I don’t agree that it is impossible to compete with trenched competition.

Firefox has some prior momentum themselves, they’re not quite an upstart.