[jcelerier]

> STUN is just for punching holes in your NAT router, and also discovering what is your public IP address.

I know, but what I mean is that "true P2P" on our current internet architecture is not possible, you always need the help of a third party

[bodegajed]

If we are still in the 90's that definition of "true p2p" would be: two computers with both having public IPs and transferring packets via TCP. But nowadays we are always behind NATs so we became less strict with the definition of what is true p2p

[BlueTemplar]

IPv6 is slowly taking over, hopefully in the near future being behind a NAT will be considered abnormal (just like happened with Unicode, we're around 35% = "Unicode 2009", popularity-wise).

[the8472]

Then bittorrent is transcendent p2p?