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by clarifier123 1904 days ago
After reddit started banning people for upvoting the wrong things, this is a logical next step. Contrary to the popular belief, slippery slope isn't a logical fallacy.

Anonymity is the only way to combat this. Make sure your online identity isn't connected to your real name. Ideally, you should have separate identities for each website. Using Tor or a VPN is also a good idea.

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>After reddit started banning people for upvoting the wrong things, this is a logical next step. Contrary to the popular belief, slippery slope isn't a logical fallacy.

People might read this and think that people were banned for upvoting things that were insanely bigoted, or personal attacks.

While I'm sure that was the case, the slope was indeed slippery, and reddit ended up banning people for upvoting posts such as "John Brown did nothing wrong" and "it is justifiable to kill slave-owners".

Moderators that agreed that this was unreasonable then saw their subreddits (some fairly major) banned for advocating violations of reddit policy.

All in order to score PR points and do some both-sidesisms. The actual ethical good didn't matter, it was all PR to Reddit.

> After reddit started banning people for upvoting the wrong things

As a daily reddit user, I wasn't aware of this:

"Users who consistently upvote policy-breaking content within quarantined communities will receive automated warnings, followed by further consequences like a temporary or permanent suspension. We hope this will encourage healthier behavior across these communities."

> Make sure your online identity isn't connected to your real name.

Yeah, well, my userid here, on reddit, twitter, twitch, github.....is my last name, so I guess I'm stuck. (:

My perception of Reddit change radically after I had some comments removed from a popular video game subreddit (from which the larger post was removed).

I expressed a critical opinion on a video game that I, overall, greatly enjoy, but have been feeling increasing frustration over how the developers have been supporting it. The comment certainly wasn't racist, sexist, political, etc. It was simply critical of an aspect of the game that I felt was holding me back from fully enjoying the game.

What made it even worse was my comment was shadow banned. It shows up on my profile. It shows up when I'm logged in. But, it doesn't show up in an incognito tab, it's [removed].

I started noticing this happening in a lot more places. I add a comment that I'd expect would get some sort of reaction (either positive or negative), but it gets nothing. Turns out, these comments were being removed without me be aware.

In the past, content removal would almost always come with an explanation - and that reason was likely clearly justified.

> my comment was shadow banned.

Yup, this is so common I made a site showing where it happens [1]. Prior to this there was no easy way to see what had been removed from your account. Even I as a developer had no idea it was happening for years because (1) mods do sometimes send removal messages, leading me to believe they are always sent, and (2) as you wrote above, removed comments do show up in the thread when you are logged in. Everyone else sees [removed].

[1] https://www.reveddit.com

you can get shadow banned from subs for posting on other subs and its all automatic as well. this I know first hand as I was a regular poster on an antique related sub only to one day find none of my posts getting noticed and the pictures not showing. came to find out they are part of a group of subs which ban people who post on another sub.

reddit has become a real cess pool and its not the users and what they post but the back door rules and such and pettiness among to moderators of many subs

Pretty sure that was a moderator action. If it was /r/games, the mods there don’t seem too interested in informing you when they action your comments or posts. They very very often remove comments because of the «no off-topic discussion» rule, even if it’s literally just one off-topic sentence in a paragraph long comment.
None of the logical fallacies upend an argument, anyway - Especially not a political one. Political discussions aren't logical - They're rhetorical. You can say "Not all sharks bite" and it will not have the slightest effect on my argument against a proposal to stock the local swimming pool with sharks.
I was unaware that mods can see the users who upvote a post. That seams borderline too much power of for a basic reddit moderator.
AFAIK it's admins not mods.
If you want to earn income via Twitch, Patreon, etc., you have to provide your real identity though, no?