[caiomassan]

You have to take into consideration a lot when thinking about Brazil. - the midia and the president are of two different gangs - data gathering in Brazil is a joke, the true numbers can be double the ones reported for more or less.

[outworlder]

Easily double. Probably way more than that. I guess the only way to know is from excess deaths statistics. Even that is confounded by the collapse of the health care system.

[kshacker]

What happened to Brazil from being 1/4 of the BRICs countries a couple of decades back. I know Bolsonaro does not have cred in American media but was the system just a house of cards?