Going to college for programming must mean they are quite young indeed. When did colleges even start offering programming degrees? Unless maybe this is some sort of vocational college.
Depending on what is meant by 'programming,' computer science really grew out of mathematics and occasionally physics departments at colleges in the late 50s and early 60s. Disciplines started establishing CS departments in the US around the mid- to late- 60s. I'd say anyone exposed to that period on could be considered as having formal training in "programming" in a college or university environment.
I have a good friend that worked during the 60s era programming with punch cards doing applied physics work in FORTRAN (pre 77) which was already pretty big by then. You could probably go back a bit further but I don't think much was being actively taught as a sort of course one might expect today then. So I'd say you could have at most 65ish years of programming since formal use in college.
No, it was not software engineering at the time per se but I'd absolutely call it programming.
Electrical Engineering departments were also starting to offer more and more "programming and computer" related courses as well. At a lot of universities these eventually branched out to become Computer or Software Engineering programs.
My uncle worked at the National Institutes of Health for about 35 years doing bioinformatics and protein structure modeling. In FORTRAN. Always in FORTRAN. He knew other stuff, but the bulk of his work was always FORTRAN.
I didn't learn fortran in university, but I did have to learn it for a job. It's still THE language for scientific computing. So in any job in or adjacent to scientific computing, you're bound to run into fortran.
My mom taught programming at the college level in the early 80s, in a computer science department at a state university. At that time, the big universities had computer science departments. The 4 year colleges were more of a hodgepodge, ranging from full blown CS, to a handful of programming courses offered by the math department. By the time I graduated in the mid 80s, CS departments were pretty widespread.
Someone who entered college at the start of the dot-com bubble is in their mid 40s, and that's not even when CS degrees were first offered, just when they started entering the public consciousness.
You could easily have a CS degree and be past normal retirement age.
CS College degrees in dot com era were hit and miss. Also often had a weird mix of electrical engineering courses thrown in.
Was quite common to do 2-3 years then drop out and start a job. So much so that people with degrees were often looked down on. Exceptions for things like MIT.
After year 3, there was nothing left for me to take. So I took a job.
I would like to have a degree, but it was the right call at the time.
Few years ago I went back and started an Art degree. Was a blast.
I'm still holding onto some of my mom's CompSci homework from the early 80s or so. Mostly based on flow diagrams and what amounts to state machines. Sadly no punch cards, though she talked about taking them in to run assignments.
Story goes that she had a campus job cleaning, and made good friends with the guys in charge of running the mainframe by bringing them food and drinks when she stopped by. Which of course meant she could often get them to sneak her stack of cards into the queue overnight.
Details are fuzzy since I last heard the tales over a decade ago, and haven't dug the assignments out in forever.
NC State was celebrating 40 years of CS in 2006 or so and they weren't the first. CS degrees have been around since the 1960s, so 50+ years at this point of CS as a separate degree program in the US. Apparently Cambridge offered their first CS degree in 1953.
Yes, but they took quite some time to spread to the whole country and to every major university. That didn't really start until the 70s and 80s (in line with when NC State got established).
I switched my major from 'business' (yawn) to comp sci 35 years ago (1986).. at my school, it was previously a 'concentration' in the Math department, which meant you got a BS in Math, concentration in Computer Science. It wasn't a full Bachelors of Science degree until about two years before I got there.
I think you are kidding. Even my southern noname university had cs degrees 40 years ago. We had 3, one that was computer engineering, one in arts & sciences, one in the biz college
Started on a pdp-8/E in 1973 with its staggering 4k of 12-bit memory. "Going to college to program" might have meant going to where the machines were as most of them were on the large size... We had to descend on the college computer centre, which drove the adults nuts. Rugrats running about, fixing their programs for them. Times were different then, but the graduate-to-hacker test was to start with blank paper and end up with a working program. It was too big and too slow, but at the end the new hacker was enlightened.
They probably meant they went to college for something like computer science or computer engineering that includes a ton of classes that involve a lot of programming?
Or, since he says "pre-teen", it could just be that his parents sent him to a programming class at a local community college when he was twelve years old. That's the sense I get, actually. The number of people who start actual college as a pre-teen is vanishingly small.
We had a Pascal class on a VAX in my high school in 1983, and it was fantastic. We used the classic "Oh! Pascal!" text and it was great preparation for college. There was no CS major at the liberal arts school where I ended up, but there were courses with Turbo Pascal taught by the math department before I graduated.
I have a good friend that worked during the 60s era programming with punch cards doing applied physics work in FORTRAN (pre 77) which was already pretty big by then. You could probably go back a bit further but I don't think much was being actively taught as a sort of course one might expect today then. So I'd say you could have at most 65ish years of programming since formal use in college.
No, it was not software engineering at the time per se but I'd absolutely call it programming.