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by dalbasal 1904 days ago
Possibly, but we can't do that either. What we need is some balance of both worlds. OOH, we do actually need to be contactable. OTOH, being too contactable means spam. I doubt there's a perfect balance, but either extreme come with too many problems.

Email has decent spam filtering, and I think that kind of cat-mouse system will persist. That said, there's "room" for more whitelisting.

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"I doubt there's a perfect balance, but either extreme come with too many problems."

In principle, "pay me a small fee if you're not on my list, if I put you on my list now it's free" would work well (optionally refund someone who contacts you out of the blue that you approve of), but there's a lot of both engineering and social details between where we are now and such a system.

It doesn't take much cost friction to deter mass spamming. I don't think much problem would be left behind from the handful of overconfident spammers who think that they can bust the odds and it's worth 25 cents a message or something.

This is one of those ideas that appeals to economists and nerds, but rarely works out irl.

Artificially or intentionally aligning interests tends to be a "genie, make me a sandwich^" problem. There are lots of places where "reversing the charges," seems good in theory... but it never happens.

Anyway, linkedin have something like this. In practice, it feels like a better quality of spam, rather than a solution to spam.

^Poof. you are now a sandwich.

Sounds like a good idea on which to base an ISP startup.

"Anyone not on your contact list will take $1 off your monthly bill for each phone call, SMS, or eMail they send to you (through our phone line & email servers)"

This is nearly a few decades old (2004): https://craphound.com/spamsolutions.txt
The “Hey” email service toes the line well for me. I’d prefer all of my communications were based on a similar idea.