[dagw]

I recall there being some 'wilderness years' between people generally deciding that Zope was a bad idea and Django 'winning'. I remember using frameworks like Turbogears and CherryPy for a while before Django and Flask split the 'market' between them.

[rodelrod]

This is how I was seeing things play out in the early 2000's: — Python Programmers: why do we still have to be doing this in php/Perl/JSP/ASP when Python exists? — The World: here's Zope — Python Programmers: is that supposed to be joke?

Then in 2003 WSGI showed up and it was a matter of time, leading to the years of wilderness that you describe until Django won out. I confess that I was more team Pylons, but happily conceded.