[acdha]

I generally agree philosophically but PHP has a couple of features which make problems more likely: the C style error handling increases the odds of problems being ignored (yes, Python can have except:pass but that’s more obvious & requires intent) and the mushy typing hits even experienced developers who didn’t think about whether they needed === instead of ==. The standard library’s inconsistent parameter ordering for related functions probably deserves a mention here, too.

I started using PHP around 1998 and quit cold-turkey about a decade later for Python after noticing across the board quality improvements on every project. PHP isn’t terrible but using it requires constant diligence and few teams had the extra time and skills to use it safely.

[leetrout]

I think the tooling we have in the Python ecosystem far exceeds PHP and I agree (and mentioned below) about the inconsistencies.

Been a long time since our chats at DC Python. Hope you’ve been doing well, sir!

[acdha]

Heh, yes, it has been quite a while. Pandemic pre-K has been quite the adventure so DC Python seems like a fairly distant memory ;-)