[godelski]

In the current climate the way you phrased things comes off very similarly to the common "capitalism bad, socialism good" argument that lacks a lot of nuance between those opinions. The specificity of capitalism in your statement seems fairly irrelevant to what you have expanded upon, and this likely will just lead to fighting (and I suspect is the reason for your downvotes). It definitely comes off as if you are trying to blame capitalism for the problem, but that may not have been your intent and just that I (many of us?) am primed this way. So I'm trying to pull the conversation away from this "Capitalism v Socialism" argument because it is difficult to have a real conversation when we even approach this framing, even on HN these conversations divulge to a race to the bottom really quickly.

FWIW I don't think the majority of people reject the idea that we need some amounts of regulation, some amounts of social policy/protection, etc. The argument is how much, but we use bad terms to discuss this and definitions people refuse to agree on nor recognize that others are using different definitions.