[GenerocUsername]

Trauma is the natural state of the universe. To think life should be free of trauma is a hyper-modern and sheltered view of the world enabled by our extreme comfort provided by modern technology and the invisible labor from less privelidged people and those who lived and died before us.

Trauma is the natural state, and our resilience has and always will be a defining characteristic of successful people... Of whom we are descendents.

[haswell]

> Trauma is the natural state of the universe.

As a survivor of sexual abuse on a lifelong journey of survival, it’s difficult to communicate just how strongly I disagree with (and am repulsed by) this statement and the sentiment behind it.

It lacks awareness of the many kinds of trauma, and trivializes the experiences of those who’ve been subjected to things that are anything but natural.

Do not mistake the prevalence of something for being “natural”. Trauma, by definition, is the opposite, prevalent though it may be.

And even if you could lump all kinds of trauma into the same category, my conclusion would be very different than yours. If trauma is the natural state, then we should be doing everything to change that state, not throw up our hands and conclude “oh well, that’s just the way things are, and the best survive”.

Imagine taking this stance on slavery, or more broadly: racism.

[Dudeman112]

>Trauma is the natural state of the universe.

I agree with everything you said.

Also: fuck the natural state of the universe. The natural state of the universe is shit and we should seriously fight against it.

There is no fairness or justice or good in the laws of the universe. Nature is a bitch.

But that's not so bad, because we can be fair and good and make the environment better.

[wiggumspiggums]

I'd recommend checking out a book called "The Body Keeps the Score". It talks about how people's minds and bodies can stop functioning normally due to traumas like sexual abuse, war, etc.

I would have thought that since traumatic experiences have been around forever, humans would have adapted to dealing with those better by now. And yet the medical evidence laid out in this book seems to show that healing from traumas is difficult. To me, that means there is something "unnatural" about trauma (or at least the most awful cases).

I'm probably not doing the book enough justice. Here's the goodreads profile for anyone who wants to explore further: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/18693771-the-body-keeps-...

[KittenInABox]

The defining characteristic of successful people IMO is not resilience but that their life has given them the opportunity to be successful in the first place!

There is nothing hyper-modern about condemning war, sexual assault, child abuse, and genocide. These things have been viewed as terrible by various civilizations since civilization existed.