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by varispeed 1903 days ago
There is nothing that you can do about it, so people are just apathetic. Only way to change something is by voting, but there is no party that would have a chance of winning that would support freedom of speech. People literally think that if you have nothing to hide, then you have nothing to worry about. When I tried to move some of my friends to Signal and told them that someone can read our messages, they just said so what. You also have this propaganda about being open, transparent with everything that you do and people share things themselves and they find it enjoyable.
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> There is nothing that you can do about it, so people are just apathetic.

Just to expand on this. It is just recognising the state of current situation. A lot of people in the UK support the state in some form or another and if the state tells you encryption is for terrorists or criminals then as far as they are concerned it it is for terrorists and criminals. Almost everyone in IT *might* grumble about it but that is as far as it goes.

People outside of that view point are seen as eccentric, crazy or "conspiracy theorists" even after you point to real abuses of the current snooping from GCGQ (e.g. people spying on their former spouses) that has rock solid evidence.

There is no political will in any mainstream party, even the non-mainstream ones don't care. The citizenry is apathetic, the professionals in the industry that work here are apathetic. In fact the very opposite exists, people seem to love it when the politicians do tyrannical things. There is also no real difference in the mainstream parties. I haven't voted in years because there is nobody to vote for who is worth a damn.

I am so fed up of fellow citizens. I am moving once the COVID situation is resolved as mentioned in another comment.

Getting people to move from something like Whatsapp to Signal is almost impossible. I have no intention of even living in the UK in the next few years to probably one of the overseas territories again (they are starting to tax the hell out of the things I make a living on).
>Only way to change something is by voting

Any party with a chance of winning gets coopted.

The only real way to change is to participate in internal party politics machinery, and be prepared to play dirty, because they certainly will.