[solutron]

This is why full self driving coming from a company like Tesla matters. It's vertical integration with hardware, manufacturing, battery and chip production makes it so they don't need any of the OEM legacy auto companies. They are already building the best electric cars available. Nobody comes close. When FSD 9.x is released the zero-to-one moment happens and there'll be no going back. The other companies are going to do nothing but play catch-up and many will go bankrupt.

[foobiekr]

Tesla's FSD doesn't work and they basically admit it is a level 2 system and may never be more. It's been Elon with the football and Charlie Brown running for the kick over and over.

[nickik]

The only thing they said is that in California its a Level 2 system for now. Their long terms strategy is the same it has always been.

The idea that they believe it will never be more then Level 2 is factually wrong. You might believe that, but they don't.