[iJohnDoe]

Exactly. Sure, my cousin Earl can spin up a container and some VMs. Will they be secure? Probably not. Will they be backed up and offsite failover? Probably not. Will they get ransomware at some point? Probably.

There is no need to make blanket statements about on-prem vs. cloud. You have to weigh the pros and cons as any other business decision.

It’s about controlling you’re own destiny with either decision.

[paulryanrogers]

Not trying to make blanket statements. I'm actually a fan of on prem when load and reliability needs fit.

[petre]

You can use Proxmox. We have an on prem cluster. It works reliably as long as your hardware works. It does LXC, VMs, migrations to another node, snasphots, ZFS. We hand an outage when a router died. Surprisingly a bare metal FreeBSD server directly connected to the public network was still up when the VMs were unacessible.