[vmception]

I listened to everything that people told me they miss about San Francisco

and they are absolutely correct that this gentrifying transplant (aka anybody that signs a new lease, shrug) would find San Francisco unappealing

I mean I find it unappealing now too, but would have found it more so unappealing

Every single currently desirable neighborhood was an undesirable neighborhood within the last 30 years. "But the culture and the artists are gone" yeah, so is a gigantic abandoned highway through Hayes Valley replaced by ice cream shops eeeeeverywhere. There isn't a coherent consensus, just angst.

[asveikau]

> Every single currently desirable neighborhood was an undesirable neighborhood within the last 30 years.

This kind of thing is true of many (most?) cities in the US.

(Well, I don't know about every desirable neighborhood. Pacific Heights is going to be nice on either side of 30 years.)

[vmception]

Sort of but the other US cities aren’t longing for a worse iteration of the city while simultaneously blaming the last decade or two on a 100-year long pricing trend but acting like its recent

[dghlsakjg]

There was a period after forced integration/busing, and the advent of suburbs where housing in cities was very much not a sure thing upward trend like it is now.

If you go to a lot of cities in between coasts the revitalization of downtown areas is most definitely a "last decade or two" trend.

[asveikau]

I think the thinking about American cities in the 70s, 80s, and early 90s was pretty different.

Remember that New York nearly went bankrupt in the 70s. Then the crack epidemic in the 80s. Crime was much worse and cities were seen as undesirable.