[blackrock]

This is actually an interesting question.

The western countries are accusing China of fake genocide here, such as suppressing the Uyghur culture, their language, their food, their clothing, even their haircuts.

But yet, H&M is a western brand, that sells jeans and T-shirt, which are western style clothes.

So, if the Uyghurs are buying and wearing H&M clothes, instead of traditional Uyghur clothes, then they are in effect genociding themselves.

So therefore, H&M and the West, are in effect, helping to genocide Uyghur culture.

The funny thing also, is that one of the most famous Chinese actresses right now, is Dilraba Dilmurat, of the Uyghur ethnicity. And she is rising in stardom in the Chinese entertainment world.

So if the Chinese are really trying to genocide the Uyghurs, then I highly doubt they’d let a Uyghur girl rise up too far in their entertainment culture.

Can you imagine the Nazis promoting Jews in their films? That is the analogy here.

Something to think about.

[sofixa]

] The western countries are accusing China of fake genocide here, such as suppressing the Uyghur culture, their language, their food, their clothing, even their haircuts

First of all, that's not a fake genocide. Forced cultural assimilation is still considered genocide.

Second, the accusations are far more serious - concentration camps with various human rights abuses. That's in classic genocide territory, going as far as the Herrero and Namaqua one.

> The funny thing also, is that one of the most famous Chinese actresses right now, is Dilraba Dilmurat, of the Uyghur ethnicity. And she is rising in stardom in the Chinese entertainment world.

> So if the Chinese are really trying to genocide the Uyghurs, then I highly doubt they’d let a Uyghur girl rise up too far in their entertainment culture.

> Can you imagine the Nazis promoting Jews in their films? That is the analogy here

The comparison isn't apt, because the Chinese don't claim Uyghurs are enemies of the people or w/e, just that their culture is terrorist. They're doing cultural assimilation, not mass extermination ( mostly). So a culturally assimilated actress is a perfect tool - see, they're not all bad, it's not in their blood/race!

[blackrock]

> Forced cultural assimilation is still considered genocide.

Interesting point of view there. You sure you want to die on this hill?

Ok, let’s take that a step further.

In the Western countries, the United States, Canada, Australia, and Europe, they all force their immigrants to culturally assimilate. They do this by socially shaming the immigrants to adopt local names, and to not speak their own native language.

This is very prevalent in the white countries, where white people scream out: “Why don’t you speak English, and learn our culture!”

And in grade schools, the immigrants are mocked for being foreign.

And what does the government do about this? Nothing. They turn a blind eye. They let society handle the cultural genocide for them. I’m sorry, to use your phrase: the forced cultural assimilation.

This is their technique. And it allows them to have a plausible deniability to the situation.

Hell, even in the western countries, women are banned from wearing their burqas and facial veils.

And then, speaking of concentration camps, then don’t you agree that the United States had their own concentration camps when they arrested all the Japanese and threw them into the American Concentration Camps? This was only 70 years ago, so it’s not very far back in American history.

And furthermore, the United States and the other western countries, have their own techniques of genociding foreign culture. They do this through Hollywood, by casting Asian males as weirdly foreign, incompetent, and ignorant to the western ways. If this is not cultural genocide, per your own definition, then I don’t know what is.

[deanCommie]

> In the Western countries, the United States, Canada, Australia, and Europe, they all force their immigrants to culturally assimilate. They do this by socially shaming the immigrants to adopt local names, and to not speak their own native language.This is very prevalent in the white countries, where white people scream out: “Why don’t you speak English, and learn our culture!”

This happens by a sub group of Conservative regressive minority of the population. It is not government sanctioned and in most of the countries you mentioned not supported by the majority of the public opinion. These are exceptions not the rule.

> And in grade schools, the immigrants are mocked for being foreign.

You're comparing the behavior of petulant children against government policy of the CPC? Apt, I suppose, if that's the standard you hold them to.

[sofixa]

I'm not sure i want to engage it shitty whataboutism, but here it goes:

> Hell, even in the western countries, women are banned from wearing their burqas and facial veils.

It's not about assimilation of a foreign culture, it's about an unacceptable practice part of a foreign culture. Similar to genital mutilation which is accepted in some cultures and religions, but really shouldn't be and that's why it's forbidden in some places. You can practice your culture all you want, but you can't show everyone that you treat women like shit because your holy book said so 2 millennia ago.

> And then, speaking of concentration camps, then don’t you agree that the United States had their own concentration camps when they arrested all the Japanese and threw them into the American Concentration Camps? This was only 70 years ago, so it’s not very far back in American history.

There are people as stupid as this? Yes, Japanese internment in the US is the US putting people in concentration camp based on racial profiling, and was terrible, and probably illegal.

> This is very prevalent in the white countries, where white people scream out: “Why don’t you speak English, and learn our culture!”

Yes, white=English, it's obvious how basic your argument is.

> They do this by socially shaming the immigrants to adopt local names, and to not speak their own native language. > And in grade schools, the immigrants are mocked for being foreign.

You can't generalise like this. I'm living in "white" ( i fucking hate using that term, it's useless ) France, and it's really not the case.

> And furthermore, the United States and the other western countries, have their own techniques of genociding foreign culture. They do this through Hollywood, by casting Asian males as weirdly foreign, incompetent, and ignorant to the western ways. If this is not cultural genocide, per your own definition, then I don’t know what is.

Yes, every western country does Hollywood.

[deanCommie]

> So, if the Uyghurs are buying and wearing H&M clothes, instead of traditional Uyghur clothes, then they are in effect genociding themselves.

"She accused him of rape, but then the next day had sex with someone she met at a bar. So which is it?"

That is the logical equivalent of your post.

I simply cannot believe that you would not be able to tell the difference being an issue of CONSENT and AGENCY.

H&M is not FORCING anyone to adopt western cultural standards or abandon their heritage.

The CPC is.