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by meddlepal 1914 days ago
The union has access to the employees out of work hours.

Why should the union get compensated time to express their position. If the Union wants to comp Amazon access to their employees and lost productivity then sure maybe, but I don't see that being proposed. It's always Amazon who must "give" something.
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pmiller2 1914 days ago
Amazon has the same access outside of work hours. They can host events and invite employees just as easily as the union can. The union has zero access during work hours.

Amazon must "give" something because Amazon "has" 99% of the cards.

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SllX 1914 days ago
Not how it works mate. Unions are also private parties, and your desire to see more unionization does not entitle one private organization to the time, money and/or resources of another.
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pmiller2 1914 days ago
I know that's not how it works. I'm saying that's not how it should work. Amazon should not be able to abuse its employees by forcing them to go to mandatory "information" sessions under threat of dismissal, precisely because the union doesn't have that power. Either both should have it, or neither should. Which would you prefer?

Edit: I notice you've done this exact same thing in another comment subthread here. Are you deliberately overlooking the fact that I'm proposing a change to "how it works?" That means "that's not how it works, mate" is completely irrelevant.

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SllX 1914 days ago
If you’re going to put me on the spot, I come down on Amazon’s private property rights, employer’s prerogative and First Amendment interest in their own warehouse; I also come down on the side of the private sector employees to unionize, and exercise their own rights if that is what they want to do, but not by spending their employer’s resources and time on the effort.

I am a proponent of work/personal separation, and union efforts are a personal effort up until the point they succeed, if they succeed. That isn’t fair to the union but life is tough in the aluminum siding business.

Edit in response to your edit: we can go back and forth, I’m watching the other subthread too. Feel free to consolidate if you like.

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pmiller2 1914 days ago
> Edit in response to your edit: we can go back and forth, I’m watching the other subthread too. Feel free to consolidate if you like.

Good enough. I think I'll hop over there and ditch this one if it's all the same. No need to spew things all over the place.

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SllX 1914 days ago
All the same to me mate. :)
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