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by newacct583 1913 days ago
The union does. The right to bargain collectively is protected by law, as is unfettered communication with your labor representatives.

But no, Amazon isn't required to pay you for the time you spend talking to your union rep, no.
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pmiller2 1913 days ago
I know they're not. I am literally arguing that if they're going to sit there and say "nice job you've got there... wouldn't it be too bad if you lost it," and then "invite" you to a "mandatory information session," which you can "freely" choose not to attend, then the union should get equal time at this session.
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gruez 1913 days ago
>then the union should get equal time at this session.

Why? They're not footing the bill. I'd agree with giving the union the option to do this, if they can compensate amazon equal to the hourly wage that the workers are paid, but I doubt labor unions have enough of a bankroll to make this viable.

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pmiller2 1913 days ago
They're also not literally threatening the employees' jobs if they don't attend.
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meddlepal 1913 days ago
It's not a threat. It literally has to be mandatory since the decision will have large impacts on the current employees and the company. Employees need to know what they are voting on. It's not as simple as union good, company bad and you're being disingenuous painting it as such.
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pmiller2 1913 days ago
Yes, they need to know what's being voted on. But that's not the purpose of company-sponsored, mandatory "information" sessions. The purpose is to coerce employees into sitting down and listening to anti-union propaganda, and you know it.

Would you be in favor of the union being able to hold a mandatory information session, also under threat of dismissal? Why or why not?

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psychiatrist24 1913 days ago
How can it be a "mandatory session" that people can freely choose not to attend? That's impossible.
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pmiller2 1913 days ago
It's "mandatory" if they want to keep their jobs, but they can "freely" choose to quit. Or, so the party line goes. It's also "mandatory" that you drive on the correct side of the road, but you can "freely" choose not to, and risk arrest, injury, or death.
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psychiatrist24 1913 days ago
But do they officially make the claim that they would fire anybody who doesn't attend?

I personally would want to fire anybody who wants to form a union, if I was in the situation. Why should anybody be forced to employ somebody who wants to make trouble in their organization?

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pmiller2 1911 days ago
Yes. They officially used the word "mandatory."
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