[Scuds]

So what? Though he's an philosophical founder, the FSF has stagnated under his leadership over the decades.

It's like you're more in love with the Idea of the FSF than the FSF as it stands today, reflexively self-protecting its old guard and completely inhibited by the my-way-or-the-high-way attitude of RMS.

[incrudible]

That's a fair point, but a smear campaign is not the right tool to achieve change to that end.

If we accept this process as valid just because we agree with the outcome, it is going to blow up right in our face.

[prepend]

> stagnated under his leadership over the decades.

I disagree. I think FSF is/was until recently the strongest ever.

Free Software has advanced greatly in the past 20 years, that’s not entirely due to FSF, but in part. I don’t think RMS is the singular force behind FSF but I don’t think it’s correct to say that FSF sucks or that it’s sucked because of RMS.

[p_l]

The big advances in last decade all seemed to me to be in spite of RMS, not because. But then I look from pretty afar.