[anon_tor_12345]

>They don't even have the tired Nazi accomplice excuse that the French ordered them to commit it, because that would be a lie.

You're saying using orders from leadership to commit crimes is a tired excuse. Are you therefore claiming that executors of orders bear all of the responsibility? So then, in particular, all of those in Nazi leadership that never actually fired a gun bear no responsibility?

In reality there's universal* consensus that Hitler and Goebbels et al do bear overwhelming responsibility for the atrocities of the Holocaust.

*Excluding ideologically driven contrarians/deniers

[cheph]

> Are you therefore claiming that executors of orders bear all of the responsibility?

Not something I claimed.

> In reality there's universal* consensus that Hitler and Goebbels et al do bear overwhelming responsibility for the atrocities of the Holocaust.

Feel free to provide a citation.

[anon_tor_12345]

>Not something I claimed.

No but it follows immediately from what you did claim (quoted in my previous reply).

>Feel free to provide a citation.

I need a citation for the fact that Hitler (and to a lesser extent Goebbels) are synonymous with the words Nazi and Holocaust? Really?

[cheph]

> I need a citation for the fact that Hitler (and to a lesser extent Goebbels) are synonymous with the words Nazi and Holocaust? Really?

That is not what you claimed. You need a citation for the claim you made, then we can talk about you citing other claims.