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by ashaikh 1905 days ago
I don’t think the systems are new or unique. We test drive a Kia last weekend and it was a feature they called “Driver Attention Warning.”

I’ve seen this in other brands and cars as well.

It looks like these systems use a variety of factors, steering patterns, frequency of vehicle lane assist being activated, cameras evaluating driver, biometrics (heart rate, body temperature etc.), and face monitoring/eye tracking (to see if the driver is focused on the road).

We own a Volvo and have received surveys asking about our comfort level with these features, so I’m assuming this will be commonplace soon.

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Consumer Reports made these a major factor in rating driver-assist systems, undermining Tesla’s Autopilot rating because it doesn’t actively look at the driver.
A monitoring system that helps you drive safer is different from a monitoring system that lets your employer judge your driving in real time.
If the vehicle had these features built in by the manufacturer, and it was employer policy that the driver does not disable those features, would you still consider that to be a case of employers "judging" driving behaviour in real time? Or would it perhaps be a perfectly reasonable policy?

This is a monitoring system that helps drivers drive safer. Why are you assuming that it's anything else?

You're assuming "judgement" in a way that isn't related to driver safety that is not supported by anything in the article or the features themselves.

My understanding is that this is a system which is recording the driver for review by human management at a later date. Which is very different from anything that would come pre-installed in a vehicle.
We hear you want to unionize, unfortunately your driving record shows you were what “we” call a bad employee and are fired immediately. No you can not disputed the reasons and no we will no show you the evidence.
I think we're coming at this from fundamentally different worldviews. Mine tells me employers always turn new technology against labor. I don't assume it will happen, I look to history and make an informed prediction.
I can't argue that most people want this sort of feature. Even if it's uploading a live camera feed directly to your insurance company, most people would clamor for it if it reduced their monthly bill.

But the thing I wonder is, in 50, or 70 years from now, when someone's car is deactivated because they said the wrong thing online, or or an API was deactivated somewhere, I wonder who future generations will hold responsible. Because it seems like the smart people in the room are completely aware of the systems of oppression they are creating, but are doing nothing to stop it.