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by fblp 1909 days ago
Hey glad to see some more established airtable competition, however one thing you've copied from airtable which you should differentiate on is pricing of storing data. Like airtable, your most expensive self-service (non-enteprise) plan has a cap of 1 year of historic data storage. This is pathetic when compared to basically every other collaboration tool ranging from Google sheets to Trello.

Sure, charge users for gb of storage, or data transfer - but arbitrarily deleting (or hiding) data that is more than 52 weeks old from customers who are paying you $18/user/month feels very hostile.

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> Hey glad to see some more established airtable competition

Also see Baserow that featured 2 weeks ago, it is fully open source and self-hostable:

https://baserow.io

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26448985

another one is 8base.com, which seems very similar.

Airtable needs to get their stuff together and expand their pretty terrible API

But that applies to history, right? Like undos, revisions, etc...

Or is that "any data that is older than a year"?

The pricing page seems reasonably clear that this is just revision history and not the current data.
Yes correct, it's only revision history
So what? If I’m paying $18/user/month I expect them to keep absolutely everything.
We do keep everything. That's only revision history per row
For airtable, at least, yes this is just revision history. Not any data that is older than a year
Correct! Same for us as well.
1 year of data is basically activity history on each row, not the row data itself. We don't delete any information that you add in tables.

Along with being a powerful yet easy to use spreadsheet-database platform, what differentiates us is the fact that we’re API first - the ability to connect columns to popular third party services to pull information directly in your tables and refresh/automate cells to bring real-time information. Without any coding, in a few clicks

Over 40+ no-code API connectors with popular services like YouTube, Google Analytics, Facebook Ads and others.

Arbitrary limits are very frustrating. Another service we use advertises pricing at $5/user/mo to upgrade to a plan with full history.

You can have different teams including different sets of users (sales, dev, support etc).

After we upgraded we learned that the stated pricing of $5/user/mo was actually $5/user/mo/team so if you were on two or three teams the price really jumps quickly.

Luckily they didn’t automatically upgrade all of our users for all teams. The main frustration is that there is no way to read the pricing page to know this before you sign up.

Hi Steve, there are no arbitrary limits. If there's anything in particular you're confused about, please let us know - I'll get the wordings changed immediately.

For us $5 plan is a personal plan for single user or solopreneur.

For teams it starts with $9/user/month.

Both plans are for workspaces.

Hope this helps.