[SonicSoul]

You are reducing employee mistreatment to a removed from reality statistic. As if staying close to not breaking the law is some kind of Bible scripture that makes it all ok. Lots of horrible things were legal in history and are legal today. Just because a company wants to “survive” doesn’t mean we can’t point out the things that are wrong and push for change. If you want to be cynical why not go the other way and say who cares if Amazon survives. Let someone else fill in that role that will prioritize their people. It’s easy to talk about statistics when you’re not the one at the bottom of this thing you’re so eloquently dismissing

[krapp]

>You are reducing employee mistreatment to a removed from reality statistic. As if staying close to not breaking the law is some kind of Bible scripture that makes it all ok.

No, I'm arguing that corporations aren't moralistic entities, but legalistic entities, and will make decisions based on profit risk versus legal risk instead of morality versus immorality. I never said I thought it was ok.

Amazon pays better than many jobs in their market, and they have a generous health and insurance package. They constantly give training and tutorials about wellness and safety, and they're fastidious about following regulations, sometimes to a Kafkaesque degree. And when no one is looking they'll push you in front of a bus to get to a dime on the sidewalk.

>It’s easy to talk about statistics when you’re not the one at the bottom of this thing you’re so eloquently dismissing

I'm closer to the bottom than you might think. Not everyone here is a SV bubble baby making six figures.

[rualca]

> No, I'm arguing that corporations aren't moralistic entities

But they are, aren't they?

Don't you understand that corporations are a bunch of person organized into a hierarchy?

Why would anyone claim that people working within a hierarchy are free to make any immoral decision because they manage some people but answer to other?

At most, you're only arguing that some hierarchies refuse to respect morals or legalities because no one is held accountable and were found to have zero consequences.