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by Nursie 1915 days ago
> It's often talked and complained about, I don't think "nobody tried so nobody knows" is plausible.

Can you find evidence it's been tried? By a major brand? I'm not sure anyone's making the claim that pocket size would be the number 1 determinant in jeans purchase, fit and style are still going to be important, as are perceptions of quality.

This in particular gives me pause about all the perfect-free-market responses here - women are complaining they don't get pockets. Not saying "I don't buy jeans because they have inadequate pockets". I'm not even sure they're saying "I would switch brand because of larger pockets". Just "Why no decent pockets for us?"

> What powerful force is there to keep everyone in check

Inertia?
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luckylion 1915 days ago
> Can you find evidence it's been tried? By a major brand?

That's quite the goal post though. Even if a major brand tried it, it might not be the right cut, color, price, marketing campaign or season.

> Just "Why no decent pockets for us?"

Probably cecause they don't care about decent pockets enough to switch brands or buy a non-major-brand product or start a company to create jeans that have decent products. But I'm sure some have started those companies. And likely found that, despite all those comments, it's not important to the buying decision for most women, and it's much easier to make a living by writing articles about The Jeans Cartel's strategies to oppress women by not allowing larger pockets.

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Nursie 1915 days ago
> That's quite the goal post though. Even if a major brand tried it, it might not be the right cut, color, price, marketing campaign or season.

Which is precisely the point I was making, you're arguing that the market will fix this, when there are a variety of confounding factors at play.

> And likely found that, despite all those comments

Which ones? I'm not seeing claims it's the single most important buying factor, just that it's a problem.

I find these posts that somehow the market will fix it, and clearly if it hasn't then it's a non-issue, to be facile.

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luckylion 1914 days ago
> I find these posts that somehow the market will fix it, and clearly if it hasn't then it's a non-issue, to be facile.

You're part of the market, if you don't believe it's a non-issue, fix it. If you're right, you'll get rich in the process.

Saying "the market won't listen to the customers" is an easy out and very unlikely, because those companies want to make money and if there was "that one simple trick" to sell more and make more money, chances are extremely high that they'd use it.

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Nursie 1914 days ago
> You're part of the market, if you don't believe it's a non-issue, fix it.

It's not my area of expertise, and I've already explained that there are confounding issues at work here.

> if there was "that one simple trick" to sell more

Literally nobody is claiming that apart from people like yourself who want to dismiss it.

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