[galangalalgol]

The cdc fluview mortality page. You have to download it as csv, the web plots are flu and pnumonia eatimates.

One interesting observation is that the extra deaths during the pandemic are only a third of the deaths attributed to covid. That implies that two thirds of the covid deaths would have been expected anyway last year without covid?

[labatyd]

Above 70, the death rate starts to skyrocket naturally. This was also one of the highest risk groups for COVID. A lot of people who were likely to fall down and die or have a stroke/heart attack and never recover instead caught COVID and died a few months earlier. Remember to hug your parents/grandparents as life is short and none of us is promised tomorrow.

[nibsfive]

That's accurate of other countries. Excess death outside of 75+ people who had a few more years left is zero.

[andybak]

> Excess death outside of 75+ people who had a few more years left is zero.

The data in this post seems to contradict that so you would need to specifically address that.

The fact you said "zero" rather than some small amount gives me some doubt you are debating in good faith.