[tomduncalf]

>You don't even realize how bad the boilerplate is until it's all gone

I 100% agree with this, I also started out working with Redux in the fairly early days of React and while I do feel that I did learn a lot from it and have used Redux-inspired patterns for certain parts of applications since then, the productivity gains I got from switching to MobX for state management can't be overstated.

Sure, you could argue it's less "clean" or whatever, but honestly 99% of the time it just works, and I'm happy to have the 1% of time where you're debugging where you forgot to add "observable" or whatever in exchange for the 99% productivity boost.

Svelte does look really interesting and follows a similar kind of model to how I work with React and MobX, and does away with some boilerplate/gotchas.

My main concern using it would be around maturity of libraries... while it does seem pretty batteries-included, I have got used to being able to just pull in a library for x, y or z in React and I'd be worried if I started a big Svelte project, I might find myself kicking myself down the line e.g. if I need some component (data table or whatever) that has a mature option available in React. Perhaps people who've worked with Svelte professionally can comment on whether this is a valid concern?