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> You're also conflating these reports with unspecified other reports going back 70 years to try to paint a more mysterious picture. This does not follow in any way.

There isn't enough info on this incident to make a meaningful conclusion, or to rule out that it is a group of sophisticated CalTech students launching their drone swarming research project from a research vessel with no idea the consequences of what they're doing. But there's a pattern of these incidents, and some (such as the incident in the same area with the Tic-Tac described by Commandor Fravor) don't have such an easy out.

> First and most of all, you're assuming that this is a high-tech, difficult to mount operation.

I think you overestimate how far consumer drones can fly or underestimate the radar capabilities of destroyers. The fact that a launch source was not identified is significant, whether we assume it came from domestic researchers or a hostile submarine in a US military training area outside of major civilian/military centers.

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They are called loitering munitions. By comparison, consumer gear is nowhere near to their capabilities. And I understand they fly autonomously better than a Tesla (sorry Elon).

I'm surprised there was no message left behind, in a bottle, saying "Thanks for all the selfies."