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by justicezyx 1908 days ago
To curb this type of simplistic view on Sino-US relationship, and give both sides some light equally:

> free and fair democratic election

Depending on your sources, this can be a questionable statement.

> freedom from the Chinese Government's dictatorial rule.

Depending on your sources, this can be an equally questionable statement. Case in point: most of Chinese mainlander call CCP's rule as people's democracy. And Tiger Yang, the foreign affair chief in CCP, who recently slapped Mr. Blinken, claimed "American Democracy" should not be judged by Americans only, and he believed American Democracy is not fully supported in USA.
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tablespoon 1908 days ago
That kind of comparison relies on leaving the definitions of important concepts undefined. For instance the word "democracy" in "CCP's rule as people's democracy" and "free and fair democratic election" is being used to refer to incompatible things. To an American's ear, the CCP's use is an Orwellian inversion akin to "Freedom is Slavery."
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FpUser 1908 days ago
"To an American's ear, the CCP's use is an Orwellian inversion akin to "Freedom is Slavery"

Frankly speaking the US is not the only country in the world and in this context why would other countries give a f..k about how it sounds to America's ear. They could be backwards in relation to western view on human rights but you can't really tell independent country how they do their things.

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tablespoon 1908 days ago
> Frankly speaking the US is not the only country in the world and in this context why would other countries give a f..k about how it sounds to America's ear.

Undemocratic governments like China's don't, except to muddy the waters and troll.

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FpUser 1908 days ago
If you think that "democratic" countries do not troll and muddy waters I have a bridge to sell.
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danShumway 1908 days ago
> Depending on your sources, this can be a questionable statement.

No it's not. The 2020 election was very clearly not rigged. The Trump campaign had every opportunity to bring evidence out that something was wrong in courts, and they didn't.

The Capital Riot wasn't about people with legitimate doubts who weren't being heard, they were people who's doubts were heard, and then dismissed because they didn't have any real evidence and because their claims were clearly wrong.

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