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by NaturalPhallacy 1920 days ago
>I am happy to tell a website when I close it - that is its purview.

No it isn't. As far as I'm concerned a well behaved website/page isn't even going to have a live connection once everything is loaded. Provided it's not a video stream or something. If data the user requested isn't actively being transferred there shouldn't be a connection.
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bryanrasmussen 1920 days ago
>Provided it's not a video stream or something.

there are lots of "or something" out there to require live connections.

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johannes1234321 1920 days ago
Yes, there are. But for a huge number of sites there isn't.
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jhanschoo 1919 days ago
By usage I disagree; I think most usage is rich content. Even news sites refresh their advertisements. (Of course, today they do a lot others, but I'm mentioning a case that most should agree is justified)
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foota 1920 days ago
Subsequent page loads? SSL initiation is slow because of round trip times.
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johannes1234321 1920 days ago
Even if I take that as an argument it is relevant during the initial load, while fetching the assets. (Also mind: reduce number of assets, improve caching of assets etc.) But for that the connection doesn't have to be kept up longer. For the next click it's almost neglectable.
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Dylan16807 1920 days ago
Now we've gone in a circle. Because as was already said, if you're holding a connection open in case of future loads, the most private way is to always keep it open for the same amount of time.
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tyfon 1920 days ago
I'd take the "slow" load any day over live connections to the web page.

Not sure if a human could even notice it, when I load HN over SSL it is virtually instant.

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WJW 1920 days ago
HN honors `Connection: keep-alive`, so this probably does not mean what you think it does.
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tatersolid 1919 days ago
> As far as I'm concerned a well behaved website/page isn't even going to have a live connection once everything is loaded.

HTTP 1.1 specified the “Connection: Keep-Alive” header two decades ago, and it has been in widespread use ever since. It’s a fairly critical performance optimization.

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EricE 1913 days ago
Want to have some fun? Look into WebRTC https://webrtcforthecurious.com
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